Eid and Moonsighting. ( work in progeress_ Draft)
IMPOSSIBLE EID: Saudi claims that the moon was seen on Saturday 11th August. But it was IMPOSSIBLE to see the moon that day. The new moon was 'born' at 9.59 GMT. The new crescent moon is visible after sunset and in Makka, sunset was at 6.54pm (3.54pm GMT). In Riyadh sunset was at 6.57pm (3.54pm GMT). So the moon was only about 6 or 7 hours old when it was supposedly 'seen'. The world record for sighting the new moon is about 12 hours after 'birth'. There is way the moon could have been seen and so 'Eid cannot be on Tuesday. Also, the claim of seeing the moon was on the 28th of Dhul Qa'dah (Islamic lunar months are either 29 or 30 days long), so how can Saudi announce that the moon had been seen a day early?
2 – The second argument: That people should follow the announcement of the Saudi Arabian government, some especially those supported by the corrupt Saudi regime espouse this view and play on the emotion of Muslims due to the presence of the two holy mosques in Makkah and Medina . Of course if Muslims in Saudi Arabia search for the moon on the 29th night and sight it, the rest of the Muslims globally should accept this and begin Ramadhan or make Eid, however according to the shariah evidences the Muslims in Saudi Arabia must equally accept the sighting of Muslim anywhere in the world whether in Pakistan, Indonesia or Iran regardless of the Saudi governments official announcement.
Al-Fatawa, volume 5, page 111]
Even the most famous Salafi scholar of the twentieth century, Sheikh Nasir ud-Deen al-Albani espoused the view that the global sighting must be taken, he explained the term in the hadith, صوموا لرؤيته ... " “Do fast when you it is sighted,” was general to all Muslims irrespective of locality. [Al-Silsilah as-Saheeh, Vol 6, p. 123]
Some try to use the argument about the ‘obedience to the Imam of the Muslims’ in relation to Saudi Arabia, this has no basis whatsoever as is clearly established currently Saudi Arabia is not an Islamic state, its economy is based on Riba, it is a corrupt un-Islamic monarchy that openly allies with America. Thus its ruler is definitely not the Khalifah or Ameer of the believers. It is true that when the Islamic state is re-established that the Khalifah of the Muslims will organise the congregational rituals and will declare the beginning of Ramadhan and Eid after ascertaining the sighting of the moon.
Re Iyad HIlal article:
Quote: "In order to determine the day Arafah and the day of ‘Eid-ul-Adha or Yawm-ul-Nahr (Day of Slaughtering), we need to first determine the beginning of Dhu’l-Hijjah.”
Thus Brother Iyad Hilal is saying the basis is the date of the beginning of Dhul Hijjah. As is clear from what follows this is determined by authentic Moonsighting:
Quote: "Determining the beginning of Dhu’l-Hijjah is based on (authenticated) moon-sighting as is the case with the beginning of any lunar month in the Islamic calendar. Of course, if the sighting conflicts with a (conclusive) reality about the birth of the moon -- i.e. claiming that the moon was sighted but the birth of the moon has not taken place -- the report of the moon-sighting should, then, be rejected."
Reality: the moon was only 6 or 7 hours old when it was supposedly seen. Could not have been seen so early. So this sighting has to be rejected.
Quote: "Moreover, the concept of maintaining consistency is more appropriately applied to the issue of determining when the lunar month begins, i.e. when Ramadan or Dhu’l Hijjah begins, as this falls under the same category of Mas’alah. Thus, the authorities responsible on organizing Hajj should follow one opinion in both issues”.
Comment: Thus the beginning of Dhal Hujjah and beginning of Ramadan are considered to be the same category of Mas ‘alah (Question or issue).
Quote:The entire Hajj season was conducted under the supervision of the Ruler (Khalifah) who led the pilgrims from Arafah to Mina. The Day of Arafah was always known to those who performed the Hajj and those who were in Makkah and in the surrounding areas (including Madinah)
Reality. The article is based on the decisions made by the then just ruler not the Saudi regime.
Quote:The Day of Arafah is defined after the beginning of the month is determined (as it is the 9th day of Dhu’l-Hijjah; not the first day of the month); Comment: And the beginning of the month is determined by authenthic moon sighting ( See quotes from Br Iyad's Article above. )
SAUDI ARABIA DECLARE NEW CRESCENT “SIGHTED” - BUT IS THIS SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE?
Statement from The New Crescent Society
Saturday 11 August 2018
We have been inundated with messages with regards to the start of Dhull Hijjah, and the exact date of Eid ul Adha 1439 / 2018. Today Saudi Arabia have announced that they have “sighted” the crescent moon, and the month of Dhul Hijjah starts on Sunday 12 August. This news is being shared on various media outlets.
To clarify, it is scientifically impossible for Saudi Arabia to have sighted the moon this evening. Please take a look at the data in the attached visibility charts (we have used two independent sources), which clearly demonstrate that Saudi Arabia was not in the visible range tonight. It was in fact not possible to have seen the new crescent moon anywhere in the inhabitable world tonight.
This declaration is all the more remarkable given that there was a partial solar eclipse today (August 11th). A new crescent, by definition, cannot be visible during a solar eclipse as the sun and moon are in conjunction. For Saudi Arabia to have seen the new crescent within 7 hours of conjunction would represent something not only scientifically deemed hitherto impossible, it would set a new world record for the earliest ever new crescent sighting.
Far more likely, of course, is that this is an incorrectly reported sighting. This is not the first time Saudi Arabia have produced a sighting claim which is plainly contradicted by scientific data and experienced astronomers.
As for the UK, and in the rest of the world, astronomers will be going out to look for the moon tomorrow when it will be visible. Countries who have already announced that they will follow local moon sighting reports, and therefore will not be following this announcement from Saudi Arabia, include: Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Thus the month of Dhul Hijjah will start on Monday 13 August for those who follow local sighting reports.
As a result, is likely we will have two separate Eid dates for various communities in the UK. They are as follows:
🌙 Tue 21 August (Mosques who following Saudi announcements)
🌙Wed 22 August (Mosques who follow local visibility / local calendars)
Whenever you are celebrating, and wherever you are – have a blessed month, and Eid Mubarak!
The New Crescent Society
The New Crescent Society is an organisation dedicated to the revival of the traditional practice of observing celestial bodies, and celebrating the historic relationship between Muslims, astronomy and faith.
Within the UK, The New Crescent Society advocates for an Islamic calendar for UK Muslims that is based on UK lunar-visibility, rather than relying on sighting reports from abroad.
Sources for data: HM Nautical Almanac Office, UK; Faculty of Science, Utrecht University; www.moonsighting.com ]